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Queensland election – the washup

Despite the result of the election being a foregone conclusion, the extent of the shellacking Labor copped is a surprise to pretty much everyone.

It was pretty much a given that the LNP would win with the very big “It’s Time” factor of being in power for 14 years (20 years if you’re an LNP supporter), but it’s supremely disappointing that the voters of Ashgrove swallowed Newman’s spin and voted him in.  They now expect to be fully ignored and treated as the stepping stone to higher office that there were meant to be.

I would like to congratulate News Limited (especially the Courier Mail) on an outstanding campaign…not for them the short term blitz of the election campaign proper, but they played the long game sticking the knife into the ALP at every single opportunity over the past 3 years with lurid headlines and vaguely fact-bearing articles.  It was a masterful effort at opinion shaping.  Of course they let themselves down a bit when the Newman dodgy deals stuff came out, but that was just so juicy that they couldn’t help themselves and reverted to their baser instincts.

Now of course we can expect the current NSW and Vic disease to wend its way up here, with broken promises, deals for mates, and public service cutbacks galore.  I fully expect Tim Nicholls to come out before the week is up proclaiming that the budget is worse than expected and that the promises will not be honoured/deeper cuts will be made.  OF course it will be conveniently forgotten that the budget was thoroughly vetted by both the independent Treasury and Auditor General, as was pointed out during the election coverage on Saturday night.

The Goldfish Bowl talking heads were out in full flight today pontificating on the effect of this result for the Federal Government, drawing fantastical predictions of no seats won in Queensland blah blah blah, doom and gloom, blah blah blah.  All this despite the entire election campaign on both sides being run on State issues, particularly that Labor have been in power for “20” years (LNP time).  But then since when have Mark Riley and Graham Richardson been taken seriously by anyone apart from the hosts of Sunrise.  Richo had the nerve to say that the ALP needs to focus on what will win them seats in Western Sydney, then had the gall to accuse them of not governing well.  I thought the actual problem was that they were governing for everyone and not pandering to the Western Sydney bogan to win an election…the other alternative is to go back to the Howard years of governing to the next election instead of for the greater future.

Anyway time will tell how things go up here…though I struggle to see how a political party that was so devoid of talent that they had to go outside their own ranks for a leader suddenly has the skills to govern effectively.  Should be fun…

 

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  1. At last
    March 26, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    No seriously, do you mean any of this? its not April fools day yet!. Just the fact labor was surprised by the election outcome, proves how little they know about the people that they were suppose to serve. Are you seriously suggesting that labor has been sensible with our tax money?. Are you seriously opposing cost cutting and money wasting in government?. I am surprised that there are still potentially 7 seats that supports socialism, probably all on some kind of government support. If the people can’t get Julia Gillard to call an election – they’ll just vote everone who supports her out. It’s as much a state as a Federal issue

    • March 26, 2012 at 3:11 PM

      Just the fact labor was surprised by the election outcome

      I said the extent of the landslide, not the landslide itself.

      Are you seriously suggesting that labor has been sensible with our tax money?. Are you seriously opposing cost cutting and money wasting in government?

      I’m guessing you’re one of these people who decries any government spending at all as waste? Any money spent on infrastructure is an investment not a waste, so I’ll be greatly surprised if Campbell and his merry mob of idiots does anything of the sort.
      The first indicator will be if he cancels the Cross River Rail project. If he does this it’s a pretty clear sign he’s not interested in public transport at all, so look out for more PPPs with his developer mates.

      supports socialism,

      Oh how we laughed. You obviously have no idea about politics at all and simply like to spout slogans you’ve gleaned off your favourite talkback wanker. If you want to be more precise, the party with a philosophy closest to Socialism would be your mates the National Party, with their focus on agrarian socialism.

  2. Marian Rumens
    March 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM

    Hope Queenslanders are happy now that they’ve voted in a virtual dictatorship. Maybe that’s what they wanted. Somebody to tell them “Don’t you worry about that” so that they could sit back and watch their favourite sport without a care in the world. Well. Good luck with that.

  3. Catching up
    March 26, 2012 at 11:01 AM

    What Queensland has is a party that talent is suspect, plus the fact that there is no experience within their ranks, including the leader.

    What a retired army engineer has to offer, I am a little confused.

  4. Duncan
    March 26, 2012 at 5:39 PM

    I’m waiting for the hand on heart “we won’t use our majority to RAM THROUGH legislation” like old “honest John” expected someone to believe.
    They enjoyed it while it lasted, but got kicked out pretty soon after that.
    I’ll predict that they will find some public asset to privatise, Liberals can’t help themselves.

  5. Neil of Sydney
    March 26, 2012 at 7:01 PM

    I’ll predict that they will find some public asset to privatise, Liberals can’t help themselves.”

    And who privatised Qantas, the Commonwealth bank and CSL??? It was Hawke/Keating who started privatising things.

    And usually when the Libs get in they find a huge debt that they have to deal with. How much debt did Beattie/Bligh rack up?? I have seen $85B mentioned.

    It is in the DNA of the ALP to rack up debt.

    • March 27, 2012 at 9:13 AM

      The current state of the Qld budget has been validated by the Treasury and Auditor General, both of whom the LNP have used constantly as sources for figures as was pointed out on election night by Andrew Fraser and not disputed by Tim Nicholls.

      If they suddenly start screaming that the finances are worse than they believed they will be immediately revealed as the hypocrites they are.

      • March 27, 2012 at 11:18 AM

        I note that Neil has avoided answering another question. 😯

        • jane
          April 2, 2012 at 9:11 PM

          You’re surprised, Migs?

          Are you also astonished that good old Can do wheeled out the non-core promises the day after the election? Even the Rodent waited a few days.

          shane great link. I trust you’re feeling chipper?

    • Shane in SE QLD
      March 27, 2012 at 7:20 PM

      Found an excellent comment on the Drum that responds to this rubbish nicely. Sorry I’ve dumped the whole thing here, I wasn’t sure how to link directly to the particular comment. The article itself and related comments are at http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3913872.html

      “Where there is a market, government should get out.
      Where there is no market, the government should supply.

      The problem is, most people are confused as to what a market is.
      To have a market you need multiple customers, and MULTIPLE SUPPLIERS.
      There also needs to be a mechanism for new players to enter that market.
      So how does this apply to privatization of government assets.

      The airport should never have been privatized, as there is only one of them. A friend of my who agrees, also pointed out that in London there was probably a case as there are several growing international airports around London. But even there he thought the case was marginal.

      Roads cannot be privatized as there is no true market. We cannot choose between competing M5s.
      Telephone lines should not have been privatized.
      Retail services that run over the lines can easily be privatized.

      Qantas and CBA were business that should and were privatized, as they were operating in true markets with true completive pressures.

      The electricity grid cannot be privatized.

      Rail Lines, with the exception of those build around a specific industrial operation. For example BHP and Rio Tinto build there own lines to service there mines, they are not services to the public, but essentially part of the mine. BUT in general rail lines cannot be privatized. Trains however can be. We can have many different companies running trains on the same rail lines, as we do with roads and airports.

      Put simply, successive have taken the concept that business run more efficiently as they have a profit motive, so will cut costs. They forgot the bit about competition forcing those cost cuts, They forgot that a business operates in a market. They forgot what a market actually is. So have applied the a good theory or concept in inappropriate places, where the theory doesn’t actually fit and should never have been applied.”

      • March 27, 2012 at 7:45 PM

        Shane, that’s a very nice gravatar of you. :mrgreen:

  6. March 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM

    Neil, I read the other day that the current NSW Government said it would go into a deficit to stimulate its economy if we were to be hit with another GFC. Note the word, another.

    Would you welcome this move?

    • Neil of Sydney
      March 27, 2012 at 3:55 PM

      Neil, I read the other day that the current NSW Government said it would go into a deficit to stimulate its economy

      Do you have a link for that??

      I think the Coalition agreed with the ALP’s first stimulus package but disagreed with the second. I think Labor spent too much.

      I can see a place for some stimulus spending but nothing like the ALP did.

      I suspect that Costello would not agree with any stimulus spending.

      By the way, what has happened to Guttertrash?? Have I been banned?? It says this blog has been deleted>

  7. March 27, 2012 at 5:05 PM

    Neil, why would anybody want to ban you? Gosh, not even I ever entertained the thought. You’re likable and harmless enough.

    I don’t know what happened to GT. Reb probably had enough and wanted a break. Running a blog can be demanding and at times stressful.

  8. reb
    March 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    Massive, Neil and Migs (et al)

    Sorry to detract from the topic of Massive’s post, but just a few words to let you know that I have shut down Gutter Trash.

    It wasn’t an easy decision to make, but it had basically descended into an ugly scrag fight which seemed beyond redemption. It was taking a lot of time and energy, and was pretty disheartening when posts just degenerated into bitter attacks and name-calling.

    As Migs says it was becoming very stressful and the other night I reached the point where I thought “what’s the point of all this?”

    Anyway, I’ve decided to start a new blog from scratch, which you will find here – http://farnhamreport.wordpress.com/

    This is an open invitation to anyone who feels to drop by, visit and comment..

    I would also like to take this opportunity to at least, on my behalf, put all the blog wars behind us, and move forward as a united but diverse blogging community.

    I have said some pretty hurtful things in the past, and for that I apologise.

    We can’t the past but we can change the future…

    cheers
    reb.

    • March 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM

      Hi reb. We move forward. Even after the darkest night, the sun always rises in the morning.

      BTW, you’d think Massive would put on a few drinks. Fkn miser. 😉

      • March 29, 2012 at 8:57 AM

        No drinks here…I run a dry blog. 😛

        Good to see you’re not giving up the game entirely reb. I’ll certainly pop over and show you some support.

  9. Neil of Sydney
    March 28, 2012 at 7:41 PM

    Neil, why would anybody want to ban you?

    Well I was threatened over at the Cafe and then I was told to take the threat seriously. I made one post after that and have not been back since. So i was not banned but I was self-banned.

    If they suddenly start screaming that the finances are worse than they believed they will be immediately revealed as the hypocrites they are.”

    Sounds like the finances are not great. It seems the Libs can only get into power when labor has trashed the place.

    When Joh lost power QLD had no debt. After 20 years of ALP rule they racked up $85B of debt and had a credit rating downgrade during the mining boom.

    • March 29, 2012 at 8:59 AM

      You do recall this thing called the GFC Neil?

      You know…the thing that reduced Government receipts across the developed world? So there was less money coming in?

      That’s right, your mob think it was the North Atlantic Financial Crisis, conveniently forgetting places like New Zealand and South Africa.

      Plus it was 14 years of ALP in power…I know the LNP have a pretty poor grasp on facts and figures but that one is pretty obvious.

  10. March 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM

    Neil, everyone is trying to start afresh so there is no need to bring up the negativities of the past. I apologise if you felt threatened at the Cafe. Nobody is going to murder you. Nobody knows who you are. But I do remember you saying that if we found out who you really are we’d want to murder you.

    Perhaps someone found out. :mrgreen:

    • jane
      April 2, 2012 at 9:18 PM

      Migs, I don’t know who Neil is, but I have often felt like murdering him regardless. You’re not the parrot are you? 😀

      Hi, reb, I’ll head over to your new blog to have a squiz. Do you serve G+T?

  11. Neil of Sydney
    March 29, 2012 at 3:32 PM

    You do recall this thing called the GFC Neil?”

    Yes I know all about it. However I have been told many times that Costello only reduced debt because of general good world wide conditions and the mining boom which started in 2004.

    This mining boom took place in Queensland.

    How much debt did Labor pay back from 1996-2007?? Or did all this debt originate because of the GFC???

    And I thought the Coalition was only elected once since 1989. Is this correct??

    • March 30, 2012 at 8:16 AM

      Costello only reduced debt by selling off Telstra and our gold reserves.
      Any money made during the global boom was pissed away on middle class welfare…those famous $5 tax cuts just before an election.

      I’m not sure about the debt status in Qld only during that period. I do know that the staote only got some of the peripheral benefits of the mining boom. The big miners were primarily foreign owned so their profits went overseas. Qld would have gotten the royalties and possibly a boost in employment with some small multiplier into the rest of the community…I can’t see what else they would have got out of it. The fact that the majority of workers would be FIFO doesn’t help any of the local communities at all, apart from driving property prices through the roof.

  12. Neil of Sydney
    March 29, 2012 at 3:50 PM

    I should state I was talking about the QLD Labor Party.

    I suspect while Costello was paying off debt Beattie was increasing it.

  13. Neil of Sydney
    March 30, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Costello only reduced debt by selling off Telstra and our gold reserves.

    What a load of crap. Because of what Labor did in selling off Qantas and the Comm Bank and then using this money for current spending, Costello bought in laws so that asset sales were not included in the budget bottom line.

    Costello ran up over $100B in budget surpluses and not one cent of that surplus money was obtained by asset sales.

    http://www.treasurer.gov.au/DisplayDocs.aspx?doc=pressreleases/2001/020.htm&pageID=&min=phc&Year=2001&DocType=0

    The Commonwealth accounts do not include the proceeds of financial asset sales, such as Telstra, in the bottom line. They have not included the proceeds of financial asset sales in the bottom line since the defeat of the Labor Government in March 1996.

    One of the first decisions made by the Government, and backed by the Charter of Budget Honesty, was to exclude these asset sales from the Budget bottom line.”

    • jane
      April 2, 2012 at 9:22 PM

      And he squandered the lot handing out bribes welfare to people who didn’t need it and allowing public infrastructure to run down and the health system to decay.

      The Charter of Budget honesty? Oh how we laughed!!!

  14. Neil of Sydney
    March 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

    Any money made during the global boom was pissed away on middle class welfare…those famous $5 tax cuts just before an election.”

    ????

    The last three Costello budgets gave a surplus of $16, $17 and $20B dollars. My maths tells me that is $53B saved during the mining boom which started in 2004.

    Why do you tell lies???

    • April 2, 2012 at 8:47 AM

      Because they are not lies Neil.
      It’s easy to bring in a surplus when you cut costs on health care and don’t spend on infrastructure.

      Name any investment Costello and Howard made in the future of the nation, not just in the future of their Government. Name one piece of infrastructure they invested in or one long term investment…

  15. Neil of Sydney
    April 2, 2012 at 10:59 AM

    Because they are not lies Neil.”

    YES THEY ARE. You said this

    ““Any money made during the global boom was pissed away on middle class welfare…those famous $5 tax cuts just before an election.”

    I told you. Costello saved $53B during the boom.

    I think infrastructure is a state responsibility. But look up Auslink. Howard spent lots on infrastructure

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AusLink

    AusLink was an Australian Government land transport funding program, established in June 2004 and administered by the Department of Transport and Regional Services. In 2009 it was replaced with the Nation Building Program under the Nation Building Program (National Land Transport) Act 2009[6]

  16. Neil of Sydney
    April 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM

    Name one piece of infrastructure they invested in or one long term investment…

    Well they built the Ghan railway line. This was the second biggest civil engineering project in Australian history.

    But more on Auslink

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AusLink

    The White Paper announced funding of $12,708 million for road and rail projects in the first five years of AusLink, 2004-05 to 2008-09 (Australian financial years run from 1 July to 30 June). In the 2007-08 Federal Budget, it was announced $22,290 million would be spent on Auslink II from 2009-10 to 2013-14.

    But Labor renamed it to the Nation Building Program

    • April 3, 2012 at 8:44 AM

      So 11 years in office during the biggest financial boom in history leaves them with the legacy of one train line…how’s that for value for money.

      National infrastructure is most definitely NOT a state issue Neil.

  17. Neil of Sydney
    April 3, 2012 at 10:14 AM

    Well you asked for one example. I gave you one. The biggest project in 50 years.

    Biggest financial boom in history?? More lies I think. It was during this time that the European countries and the US were racking up debt.

    http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1126584.htm

    MARK COLVIN: The Federal Government calls it nation building, the Opposition says it’s pork-barrelling.

    Today the Acting Prime Minister, John Anderson, outlined all the road and rail projects the Government intends to fund over the next five years to meet Australia’s long-term transport challenges.

    Labor says the $12-billion Auslink land transport investment plan is a massive pork-barrelling exercise … says it’s aimed at maximising the Coalition’s re-election chances.

    The Government says that’s nonsense, and insists it’s a quality national infrastructure proposal – the equivalent of two Snowy Mountains Schemes.

    Alexandra Kirk reports from Canberra.

    ALEXANDRA KIRK: John Anderson has unveiled his big road and rail plan, more than two years in the making.

    JOHN ANDERSON: Nation-building infrastructure that will serve us well and our children well. Australians love infrastructure. They say � why don’t we do another Snowy Mountains Scheme? Well, the Snowy Mountains Scheme was six billion. In today’s money we’re talking here 12.7 over the next five years.

    Labor called this pork barrelling because the roads being upgraded went through National party seats. Hard to upgrade the Pacific Highway without Labor calling it pork since the road running from Sydney to Brisbane goes through National party seats. Sydney and Brisbane gets the benefit

  18. Neil of Sydney
    April 3, 2012 at 10:22 AM

    It should also be noted that during this alleged worldwide boom Queensland was racking up the debt while the Federal govt was paying it off. Qld also lost their credit rating.

    And the mining boom took place in Queensland.

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