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Media WINS!

A heartfelt congratulations goes out to the media today.

They have now successfully proven that they have just as much clout and concern for the good of this nation as Clubs Australia or the big miners.  After all they finally got a Government politician to jump through one of their hoops after months of trying.

In my opinion, by feeding the media trolls and forcing the spill Rudd has specifically highlighted why he should not be allowed back into the top job.  If he has been the one doing the undermining of the Government with his leaks, then this entire process is all about him…not what’s best for the country or the government, just about him.

This makes him the Tony Abbott of the ALP…only concerned about getting into power and not about the consequences after it happens.  The fact that Tony Windsor has come out and explicitly stated that he will not support the Government if Rudd gets back in should put paid to any ascension by Rudd…unless of course they are all incurably stupid and media/poll driven.

By far the best possible outcome is that Rudd loses the vote resoundingly and goes quietly to the back benches.  Of course if it is indeed all about him and not what’s best, when he loses he would have a dummy spit and quit all together forcing a by-election…thereby proving the point that he is not the right man for the job.

Anyway let’s see how the events unfold next week.  In the meantime prepare for the orgy of self-congratulation by each and every member of the Canberra Goldfish Bowl…and look out for the smug smiles of the ones that manage to get their heads onscreen.

UPDATE:  A better way of saying what I’m trying to above.

UPDATE 2:  Tim Dunlop with a typically lucid take on it.

  1. Recalcitrant Rick
    February 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM

    In total agreement, Given the comments by the independents and the attitude of (all?) the cabinet, I don’t feel that Rudd has a hope in hell! I mean, what could he do to resurrect Labor’s standing and still retain the numbers in Parliament? Scrap the mining tax? (oh, he already did that once, and that’s what caused his problem! Scrap the Carbon tax? What the hell does he actually stand for? Common sense will prevail and I’m actually optimistic that this may in fact be Gillards year. Disregarding her backdown on the pokey reform, (which, I have to say pissed me off!) I think her negotiating skills, (especially compared to Rudd!) have been not been fully apreciated by the general population and I think we will see some shifts in sentiment as the Carbon tax proves to be far more benign than people realise and that the tax reforms from the mining tax start to bite into peoples consciousness. As we get closer to an election, Abbott will suffer under scrutiny from the press about his economic credentials, (although, saying that sounds like he has any) because they will look foolish ultimately if they let his crap pass without scrutiny. A year from now is a long time and Labor can still win! Does anyone remember the first years of the Howard (accchht, ptuii) Government?

    • February 23, 2012 at 10:25 AM

      Rick I’m just hoping they can keep it together until the carbon “tax” compensation starts coming through. Once people realise that their tax free threshold is getting TRIPLED (an effective tax cut for all) and the lower income earners start to get compensated they’ll realise the Opposition is even more full of shit that they realised…and they’ll never be able to take that money back.

  2. Recalcitrant Rick
    February 23, 2012 at 10:37 AM

    I employ teenagers who will benefit enormously from these tax changes, It’s amazing how few people know about them! That is Gillards fault! She needs to learn how to sell the positives instead of constantly responding to Abbotts agenda! Of course if she can end the Rudd speculation, it will clear the air.

  3. reb
    February 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM

    I know I’ve said this before, but it seems that it needs to be said again, the media is not “one person.”

    • February 23, 2012 at 11:51 AM

      Maybe not…but it’s funny how they all seem to think EXACTLY THE SAME THING.

      The number of times exactly the same turn of phrase is used is frightening. The political press is a group mind with one objective…sales/ratings/hits. Reporting fact and truth went out the window a long long time ago.

  4. King Rat
    February 23, 2012 at 10:57 AM

    “It is now evident to me and it is now evident to the Australian people that there has been a long-running destabilisation campaign to get to this point. However I don’t want to dwell on that.

    “I like to think the best of people. We now see there has been a concerted campaign here and we need to end it,and the way to end it is through a ballot.”

    —-Julia Gillard

    The PM confirms “a long-running destabilisation campaign”………”and the way to end it is through a ballot.”

    But Massive still doesn’t believe her

    • February 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM

      Walrus, if you’d care to read my comment on the other post I’ve already conceded that I gave Rudd the benefit of the doubt on this.

      After his effort last night I now understand that I was mistaken and that he is a petty, petty man who is in it for his ego. He has no regard for the welfare of the nation.

  5. King Rat
    February 23, 2012 at 10:58 AM


    I forgot


  6. King Rat
    February 23, 2012 at 11:32 AM

    “……..He sought to tear down the 2010 campaign, deliberately risking an Abbott prime ministership, and now he undermines the government at every turn… ”

    —- Wayne Swan

    And I suppose you dont believe him either


    • February 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      See above.

      I tend to disregard journalistic reporting from “unnamed sources”, which is code for gossip.
      If they don’t have the stones to go on record, how serious are they? Which is why it’s good to finally hear all the dirty laundry coming out.

      When will your mate Tony reciprocate with his rationale for knifing Malcolm by one vote?

  7. reb
    February 23, 2012 at 12:22 PM

    Massive, why don’t you just admit that YOU WERE WRONG.

    It’s not that difficult…

    Tom R’s already admitted that much…

    And we’ll still all love all the same… 🙂

    • February 23, 2012 at 1:52 PM

      Already done.

      Walrus, if you’d care to read my comment on the other post I’ve already conceded that I gave Rudd the benefit of the doubt on this.
      After his effort last night I now understand that I was mistaken and that he is a petty, petty man who is in it for his ego. He has no regard for the welfare of the nation.

      Definitely not wrong about the media’s involvement.

  8. reb
    February 23, 2012 at 12:23 PM

    “all love you all the same”

  9. February 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    Get over this “Media done it” Meme MS and you might be able to view the events with a bit more clarity, Labor are dying in a ditch here and no matter who wins Monday’s ballot to be leader the voters are going to thrash the party at the next election. watching Gillard’s press conference I was struck by just how close she was to bursting into tears. You just have to face the fact that the Gillard governemnt will go down in history as one of the worst since federation and for once I agree with Rudd that it is and will always be absolutely unelectable at the next poll. the only hope that many back benchers will fell that they have is to embrace Kevin for the slim chance that they might just hold a few more seats.
    That said I bet that a refurbished Rudd leadership will inspire more adds of this ilk:

    Its going to be interesting…

    • February 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM

      Seriously do you think that if it hadn’t been a news item for the past year this would still have happened?

      It’s the ultimate exercise in trolling and Rudd bit.
      All he needed to do was state categorically that he wouldn’t seek the leadership in this term and it would be over…but instead he has to play the victim.
      Now that it turns out that he has been undermining the whole time, he deserves even less respect. the Government is trying to get on with the job of governing while he’s doing that shit.

      • February 23, 2012 at 3:52 PM

        there is very seldom smoke without fire and as even Gillard is now admitting that there has been a long covert campaign from Kevin to get back into the lodge I don’t know how you can keep arguing its all an invention of the media. That dog just won’t hunt any more. and as we speak more of Labor’s dejected members are doing their sums and trying to find the least poisonous options for their future and when the choice is cyanide (Gillard) or strychnine (Rudd) they have to decide if they want to certainly die (politically) quickly of if they want to go through agony with a small chance of surviving that is a choice that I am very glad that I don’t have to make.
        But why would any politician let alone one with Rudd’s ego disavow their ambitions the way you suggest? They can’t if they have any honesty or integrity because no one would be that altruistic for a party as dysfunctional as the ALP.

  10. reb
    February 23, 2012 at 3:36 PM

    Sorry Massive, but your whole “blame the media” argument has not only proven tob be false, it’s just becoming really fkn boring…

    • February 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM

      Really reb? How so?

      Because a spill is going to happen?

      You don’t think that the fact this was screamed loudly from the rooftops for the past year based on speculation and gossip makes the media any less culpable?

      In politics there is always friction…in any group of people there’s always friction or tension. This is not a mystery for any person over the age of 5. Why it needed to be headline news for the past year is purely a function of the media’s need to get payback for the slight of being ignored the last time it happened…the industry version of the sustained tantrum.

      This is precisely what it has all been in aid of…if they scream it loudly enough it will eventually become a self-fulfilling prophecy when someone blinks, and that someone was Rudd.

      Not only did he blink, he threw his toys out of the cot and played the martyr to the hilt. The upside is that it freed up the rest of the Government from any vague notions of loyalty to the man who helped get rid of Howard and we are now hearing what a dysfunctional tool he was to work with. The tenor of his press conferences didn’t help either…anyone without a tin ear could tell it was all about him and nothing to do with what’s best for the country. What’s the point of being the dysfunctional leader of the government if you can’t actually govern,

  11. reb
    February 23, 2012 at 5:21 PM

    Sorry Massive, but in light of recent events, your protest that it’s all the fault of the media, just makes you look unhinged.

    • Duncan
      February 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM

      They have been saying, that it was going to happen now any day for an entire year.
      Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
      That is the point you are missing.

    • February 24, 2012 at 9:03 AM

      Just because you say it doesn’t make it true reb.

      I (and a whole lot of other people) still think the media is culpable and your opinion to the contrary won’t change that view.

  12. BSA Bob
    February 23, 2012 at 9:47 PM

    Big as this issue is, it’s part of a bigger one. Nobody who’s read a newspaper or watched a TV news bulletin in the past few years could be unaware that the media is conducting a campaign against the ALP on various levels & this is one of them. Chicken & egg arguments about who initiated what count for nothing. The media has screamed for this for ages, predicting it & demanding it over & over & now they’ve finally got it & can unjustifiably say they told us so. That Rudd or others were a participant in this was always on the cards, I don’t think you’ll find many denying he duchessed the media, though admittedly not to the extent we now see. But they were perfectly willing to be duchessed, encouraging him on until he was hopefully where they wanted him, back in the bullseye.

    • February 24, 2012 at 9:04 AM

      That’s what they don’t get Bob…they assume it has to be a binary state with either the media lying or there being leadership tension.
      It doesn’t occur to them that one can drive the other and vice versa in a vicious feedback circle.

  13. Tom of Melbourne
    February 23, 2012 at 10:01 PM

    The media has reported for a year that Rudd was unhappy, that there may be a challenge, that Gillard’s leadership was being undermined.

    I seem to recall that you dismissed this, you argued that the media was just stirring up problems without foundation, speculating.

    Obviously you were wrong.

  14. King Rat
    February 24, 2012 at 8:19 AM

    “Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
    That is the point you are missing.”

    No Duncan its you that’s missing the point. Even Julia has confirmed the undermining since the last election campaign.

    But yeah ya right………………………….she’s possibly lying yet again

    • Duncan
      February 24, 2012 at 11:38 AM

      Ok, imagine for a second that the media wasn’t reporting about politics, but say.. the weather or the financial markets.
      If they had said for a year that we were going to have a 45 degree day, because there were rumours from the sun, inside information etc etc. Or that there was going to be a company going bust on the ASX because there has been whispers every single day FOR MORE THAN AN ENTIRE YEAR!
      Then on the day that they are actually right, it is somehow justified?
      Would this be a credible factual or even worthwhile source of reporting?
      It hasn’t been news, its been gossip, innuendo and fucking speculation, when a challenge is mounted, or the night before perhaps THAT is news.

  15. King Rat
    February 24, 2012 at 3:13 PM

    Duncan they are not commenting on a once in 100 year event for godsake.

    The PM confirmed it has been ongoing since before the last election 18 months ago

    • Duncan
      February 24, 2012 at 7:47 PM

      Wow, reading comprehension fail…
      I guess the old adage applies here “Arguing on the internet is like winning the special olympics – even if you win your still a retard”
      You win Ratty.

  16. King Rat
    February 27, 2012 at 4:56 PM

    Yeah the usual Lefty response.

    Just abuse

    • February 28, 2012 at 9:26 AM

      That’s a fairly profound case of cognitive dissonance coming from you Rat…

  17. King Rat
    February 29, 2012 at 9:09 AM

    I dont usually start the abuse Massive

    I just ramp it up for total fucking idiots like Duncan

    • Duncan
      February 29, 2012 at 11:30 AM

      Ramp it up? , you are posting on a website you internet hero!

  18. King Rat
    February 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM

    Like I said Massive…………………”total fucking idiots like Duncan”

    I’m ROTFLMAO and pointing at you Duncan

  19. Duncan
    February 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM

    Sorry Rat, Shogun is definitely my favorite James Clavell novel.

  20. Tom of Melbourne
    March 14, 2012 at 5:26 PM

    MS, a post of mine relevant to this thread seems to have gone astray.

    You’ve previously contended that journalists should identify their sources if they’re writing about political issues.

    I’d put it to you that this is contrary to every journalistic code of ethics. Why would a (and should) a journalist identify their sources.

    You just get bothered and make foolish comments when a point just doesn’t swing in favour of the government.

    …and please don’t verbal me.

    • March 15, 2012 at 8:47 AM

      You’ve previously contended that journalists should identify their sources if they’re writing about political issues.

      Once again you are completely incorrect. At no point did I say they should identify their sources.
      What I said was that unless their sources are willing to go on the record, then anything they say must be treated as gossip and speculation.

      You just get bothered and make foolish comments when a point just doesn’t swing in favour of the government.

      Unlike you who just makes shit up about what I said.

      …and please don’t verbal me.

      Oh the irony…

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