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		<title>Polliferation</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>massivespray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Once again the new year rolls around and once again we have to suffer through the deluge of polls&#8230;with no let up in sight. Despite the media&#8217;s best efforts at twisting the narrative, there appears to be a minor trend of rising support for the Government, but this far out from the election it really [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=412&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the new year rolls around and once again we have to suffer through the deluge of polls&#8230;with no let up in sight.</p>
<p>Despite the media&#8217;s best efforts at twisting the narrative, there appears to be a minor trend of rising support for the Government, but this far out from the election it really makes no difference whatsoever.</p>
<p>The big news is that despite absolutely no evidence to support it, all the headlines from the polls scream that Rudd is favoured over Gillard.</p>
<p>The news organisations should be immensely proud of themselves&#8230;this is an outstanding effort of the tail wagging the dog.  The intense effort in the media beat-up about Rudd challenging for the leadership (well challenging any time over the past 6 months in fact) has borne fruit with the polling organisations now including this furphy in their questions and then the media whores recycling their own filth as apparent news, in one glorious vicious circle of lies and bullshit.</p>
<p>To me the pinnacle of the bullshit was this morning when the morning &#8220;news&#8221; shows trumpeted that &#8220;twice as many people preferred Rudd to Gillard&#8221;, when the percentages were 52/30&#8230;but then since when did mathematics get in the way of a good beat-up.</p>
<p>Ah well&#8230;back into the fray of grimacing through the bullshit that passes for news in this country in the vain hope of picking up some nuggets of fact through the dross of lies and bullshit, interspersed with plenty of &#8220;the Federal Opposition says&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>UPDATE:  The Newspoll this morning reports the 2PP as unchanged 54-46.  Naturally our reality-challenged media are all reporting this as &#8220;flatlining&#8221; support for the ALP.  Of course as we all know 2 instances of the same results in a 2 days period means no increase in support&#8230;regardless of any underlying longer term trend.</p>
<p>If anyone was in any doubt about how ratshit our media really is, the performance over the past week should have eliminated all doubt.  With almost no exception our media is scouring every news item for a way to spin it as either bad for the Government or good for the Opposition&#8230;witness the cherry-picking of facets of each poll to highlight perceived weaknesses for the Government.  When the 2PP goes in favour of the ALP they highlight the primary, when the primary increase they highlight the PM support, when this improves they trot out the Rudd/Gillard comparison, which has been vastly inflated by LNP voters preferring Rudd without any hope in hell of them voting for him.</p>
<p>They are now all toeing the News Corp line and going stacks on the Government&#8230;with no exception.  Wankers.</p>
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		<title>Apparently negotiation = back down</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>massivespray</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watching the news this morning I heard a story that the government was prepared to negotiate with the Opposition to reinstate offshore processing by throwing Nauru back into the mix. Did the media have a rational take on this, highlighting the pros and cons for both sides?  Like fuck did they! It was wall-to-wall bleating [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=409&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the news this morning I heard a story that the government was prepared to negotiate with the Opposition to reinstate offshore processing by throwing Nauru back into the mix.</p>
<p>Did the media have a rational take on this, highlighting the pros and cons for both sides?  Like fuck did they!</p>
<p>It was wall-to-wall bleating about the Government backing down and Abbott victorious with a crushing defeat for Gillard.  Last time I checked, actually getting what you wanted i.e. the Malaysia deal for regional offshore processing being reinstated, was classed as a win.  Sure they have to concede ground on Nauru, but from what I have heard it will be used as a staging area until the Malaysia processes and facilities are up to scratch.  Only in their most vivid fantasies could the Coalition claim this as a win because Nauru will not be permanent, TPVs will not be re-established and the Howard era policy will not be reinstated.  Not much to smile about there really.</p>
<p>Of course all the media will do is throw around the word &#8220;Nauru&#8221;, conveniently neglecting to clarify the circumstances and context and this will be seen as a huge Abbott victory.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s amazing how well served we are by our media.  /sarc</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Finally on a more uplifting note, I would like to wish any readers a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.  See you back for more vitriol in 2012.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>Clubs Australia claims another victim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2011 22:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;this time it&#8217;s Father Chris Reilly&#8217;s credibility. I happened to catch an interview this morning on Sunrise where Father Chris Reilly got stuck into Nick Xenophon, Tim Costello, Andrew Wilkie and the Government for pursuing the pokie pre-commitment strategy, claiming instead that child abuse was a far bigger problem. Now I have no beef with saying [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=406&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;this time it&#8217;s Father Chris Reilly&#8217;s credibility.</p>
<p>I happened to catch an interview this morning on Sunrise where Father Chris Reilly got stuck into Nick Xenophon, Tim Costello, Andrew Wilkie and the Government for pursuing the pokie pre-commitment strategy, claiming instead that child abuse was a far bigger problem.</p>
<p>Now I have no beef with saying that child abuse is a serious issue, but to categorically state that trying to help problem gamblers was a waste of resources just beggars the imagination.</p>
<p>Surely Reilly can see that the knock effects of pokie addiction impact on more that just the addict&#8230;some studies state a figure of 7 other people affected by each problem gambler.  Knowing the impact it does have on families I can fully understand this.</p>
<p>It certainly doesn&#8217;t explain why Reilly went off on his rant, covering the gamut of talking point like individual politicians holding the Government to ransom, minority government not working, he doesn&#8217;t understand minority government etc.</p>
<p>It did come out that Clubs Australia donated $100K to his cause, which isn&#8217;t a bad thing but certainly makes him look like he&#8217;s supporting their point of view.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just sad that Chris Reilly jumping in to something it doesn&#8217;t look like he really understands fully (and this became apparent the longer the interview went on) has ended up tarnishing his reputation.  Hopefully it won&#8217;t end up affecting all of the good works he does for Australia&#8217;s youth.</p>
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		<title>Government masterclass</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 22:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With the resignation from Speaker of the House and the consequential goings-on, the Government have given the Opposition a masterclass on how to do Parliament. In one stroke the Government have stretched their voting buffer from 1 vote to 3 votes, including the crossbenches, and couldn&#8217;t you hear the whining from the LNP. Mind you [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=403&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the resignation from Speaker of the House and the consequential goings-on, the Government have given the Opposition a masterclass on how to do Parliament.</p>
<p>In one stroke the Government have stretched their voting buffer from 1 vote to 3 votes, including the crossbenches, and couldn&#8217;t you hear the whining from the LNP.</p>
<p>Mind you they only had themselves to blame for it.  With their pre-selection kerfuffle against Peter Slipper, they effectively pushed him into the position as his only way out.  And like they wouldn&#8217;t do the same thing if the positions were reversed.</p>
<p>By far the funniest thing to come out of the coverage so far is both the disappointment of the commentariat and the despair of Abbott.</p>
<p>The talking heads on the media are devastated because they no longer have that knife-edge in Parliament where one stuff up could switch things around&#8230;providing them with endless no-brainer leads about the &#8220;seriousness&#8221; and &#8220;tension&#8221; in every single thing that ever happens.  Excluding of course the fact that all legislation is being passed and that Abbott repeatedly abuses the workings of Parliament with his ridiculously frivolous censure motions&#8230;on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Then of course there is the stuntman himself.  It wasn&#8217;t surprising at all that the first thing out of his mouth was the bleating of &#8220;the death of democracy&#8221;, when in actual fact it was a perfect example of Parliamentary democracy at work.  Wouldn&#8217;t you normally expect the deputy to take over from the speaker in any other situation?</p>
<p>Of course with the 3 vote buffer he can no longer afford to wait for a stuff up for power to change hands&#8230;he will actually have to do some work and hold out for another 2 years.  You can tell he&#8217;s not in it for the hard work.</p>
<p>The biggest concern I have with this is that I hope the Government still pursue the  reform agenda and don&#8217;t back away from the pokie pre-commitment changes because they no longer need Wilkie&#8217;s vote absolutely&#8230;it&#8217;s a change that needs to be made and most people will agree with it once the Clubs Australia noise machine dies down.</p>
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		<title>Challenging viewpoints</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Nov 2011 00:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As has been highlighted on the Blogwars thread, one of the more challenging aspects of debating on the internet can be the perspectives of the other people.  Their long held personal convictions can be a large impediment to any discussion simply because your thoughts don&#8217;t gel with their worldview, no matter how correct you may [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=399&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been highlighted on the Blogwars thread, one of the more challenging aspects of debating on the internet can be the perspectives of the other people.  Their long held personal convictions can be a large impediment to any discussion simply because your thoughts don&#8217;t gel with their worldview, no matter how correct you may be.</p>
<p>I personally have come across this on many occasions and I&#8217;m sure everyone else has at some point.</p>
<p>So I wanted to try something different.  Instead of just blatting my thesis out there in toto giving ample leeway for cognitive dissonance to creep in, I want to try a more reductionist approach.</p>
<p>By breaking down your message into simple, verifiable points with a yes/no response I think you have a better change of breaking through.  How about this for a sample:</p>
<ol>
<li>During the last election campaign, did Julia Gillard commit to pursuing a price on carbon via an emissions trading scheme if she won Government?</li>
<li>Did Julia Gillard win Government in her own right at the last election?</li>
<li>Was Julia Gillard required to negotiate with Independents and the Greens to form Government?</li>
<li>Does the process of negotiation require giving concessions to achieve your preferred outcome?</li>
<li>Did Julia Gillard provide concessions to the Greens and Independents during this negotiation process?</li>
<li>Has Julia Gillard undertaken to implement an emissions trading scheme, albeit with a fixed price period initially?</li>
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<p>Do you think these statements are accurate enough to disallow any semantic wiggle room?  Can anyone disagree with any of the statements and keep a straight face while doing so?</p>
<p>Does anyone have any other examples?</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>UPDATE:  Extra points from <strong>Recalcitrant Rick</strong> in comments:</p>
<p>7.  Did Tony Abbott have an opportunity to form Government by negotiating with the Independents?</p>
<p>8.  Did those negotiations fail?</p>
<p>9.  Does this mean that in fact the current Labor Government is legitimate?</p>
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		<title>Blogwars</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s been a bit of kerfuffle about recently in some of the blogs I follow and it appears to have come to a head in the past day or two (for those who don&#8217;t already know, it was Gutter Trash and Cafe Whispers). It has had something for all the family:  trolling, misrepresentation, out-of-context quoting, [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=395&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s been a bit of kerfuffle about recently in some of the blogs I follow and it appears to have come to a head in the past day or two (for those who don&#8217;t already know, it was Gutter Trash and Cafe Whispers).</p>
<p>It has had something for all the family:  trolling, misrepresentation, out-of-context quoting, hurt feelings, moderation, retirement and the big banhammer.  But why did it need to come to that?</p>
<p>To mind blogs are a form of discussion group, a nerdy virtual example of the book club.  As with discussion groups each one has its own personality, so using the blogs mentioned above the Cafe would be closer to the book club variety, whereas GT is closer to blokes hanging around a barbie, or drunk footy players in a locker room.</p>
<p>Now these personalities work for each other&#8230;GT revels in the cut and thrust (or actually more likely the bludgeon and smash) of the rough and tumble, whereas the Cafe has a more communal atmosphere.  It also leads to differing outcomes for the various discussions&#8230;the Cafe environment allows for people to discuss their points in a more reasoned manner, whereas GT threads often degenerate into talking point regurgitation, wilful ignorance and refusal to accept the underlying logic behind your opponents arguments.</p>
<p>The problem seems to arise when there is some cross-pollination.  From my experience in both blogs, Cafe dwellers can quite easily lob into the Gutter and post away merrily in their own style&#8230;as long as they have a thick skin, have a high stupidity tolerance,  and are willing to return fire.  But the converse doesn&#8217;t really work quite so well.  When GT posters jump on to the Cafe and try to use their own inimitable style they find they can&#8217;t quite get away with their usual antics.  The thread derails, talking points and preciousness don&#8217;t really wash and they get called out.  Which is where we are right now.</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>The point is that you need to be mindful of the tone of the place you are posting at.  Attempting the ingrained habits from a more rough and tumble locale will get you rapidly flagged as a troll and treated accordingly.  Conversely, jumping on a blog with more&#8230;flexible standards and expecting them to behave to higher standards will rapidly out you as a precious little flower.</p>
<p>Just go with the flow&#8230;if you&#8217;re one of those types who simply must provoke and incite aggro wherever you go, deal with the fallout and don&#8217;t go running to your blog-mummy when you get spanked.</p>
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		<title>Retail politics: last refuge of the incompetent</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hear quite a bit about &#8220;retail politics&#8221; these days, usually in reference to how popular a given politician is and how they&#8217;ve &#8220;got their finger on the pulse&#8221;. But I think it&#8217;s gone well beyond that now&#8230;well into the realms of fantasy and make-believe and it&#8217;s something that Abbott appears to have based his [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=391&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hear quite a bit about &#8220;retail politics&#8221; these days, usually in reference to how popular a given politician is and how they&#8217;ve &#8220;got their finger on the pulse&#8221;.</p>
<p>But I think it&#8217;s gone well beyond that now&#8230;well into the realms of fantasy and make-believe and it&#8217;s something that Abbott appears to have based his entire public persona on.</p>
<p>With the current poll-driven media and media-driven polling performing a nice little circle jerk of insularity and self-reinforcement, Abbott has latched on to this as his tool of choice and the media have done everything in their power to help him as much as they can.</p>
<p>The traditional retail politics meme of public meet-and-greets and I&#8217;m-one-of-the-common-people town halls has degenerated into photo ops in high visibility vests and gutting fish while spruiking the last three word slogan or &#8220;stop the &#8230;&#8221; idiocy.</p>
<p>Abbott doesn&#8217;t even pretend to listen to the &#8220;punters&#8221; any more&#8230;it&#8217;s all about him telling them about the latest hot button issue as propagated via the MSM/polling headlines.  And to rub even more salt into the wounds, it&#8217;s all about what he will destroy and opposed to what he will create&#8230;he will repeal the carbon tax, he will rip up the NBN; no word on what he will do for the good of the nation&#8230;it&#8217;s all about what he will do and say to get into Government.  He is the ultimate short-term visionary, only saying what he needs to say to get into power with no thought for what will happen beyond that point.  All you need to do to confirm this is have a cursory look at what he says he will scrap and what he says he will implement&#8230;currently he needs to find $70bn to do all this.  and he has the nerve to say the current government is wasting money.</p>
<p>So with the media&#8217;s active assistance in giving him wall-to-wall coverage of his stunt related idiocy or with their passive assistance in not scrutinising him as befits an alternative leader, Abbott is spiralling downwards in ever increasing circles because the polling indicates to him that his tactics are working, leading to even more idiocy being displayed, leading to an increasing dumbing down of politics in this country.  Of course, with offsiders like Hockey and Joyce you can&#8217;t help but emanate stupid, but to actively court it is another thing.</p>
<p>And the coup-de-grace?  His ham-fisted efforts at the Clubs Australia thing last night where he &#8220;predicted&#8221; he will repeal the pokie legislation in government.  He&#8217;s so pissweak that he can&#8217;t even promise it but can only &#8220;predict&#8221; it.  Good look on a potential Prime Minister&#8230;someone who&#8217;s too gutless to make a promise 2 years out from an election.  We really need those leaders who are too wishy-washy to make a committment to something.</p>
<p>Mind you, I&#8217;m sure it will get next to no coverage todays anyway.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 23:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Opposition.  By itself the definition of the word is pretty straight forward.  But apply it to politics and capitalise it and it has a whole other meaning. To mind, the Opposition has a vital role in the process of Government by highlighting policies that do not benefit the nation and working to amend or defeat [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=387&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opposition.  By itself the definition of the word is pretty straight forward.  But apply it to politics and capitalise it and it has a whole other meaning.</p>
<p>To mind, the Opposition has a vital role in the process of Government by highlighting policies that do not benefit the nation and working to amend or defeat those policies.  They also have a duty to the populace to be seen as a credible alternative Government&#8230;this doesn&#8217;t happen by flicking a switch when the election is won, it happens by showing that they have credible alternatives to Government policy.  Now all of this should be an absolute breeze in a minority government&#8230;with several unaffiliated Independents to work with it should be a doddle to convince some of them to support your alternatives&#8230;particularly if they are of a conservative bent themselves.</p>
<p>Which brings us to the current Coalition opposition.</p>
<p>To date they have not been able to stop a single piece of legislation going through the parliament of this supposedly &#8220;do nothing&#8221; government.</p>
<p>On top of this they have not clearly articulated any credible alternative to government policy.  The &#8220;pay polluters not to pollute&#8221; policy has been widely discredited by anyone with any knowledge of the sector to be laughably inadequate and in the long run massively more expensive than the government policy.  Couple this with the Green Army and tree planting (which will require more arable land than we currently possess) and it&#8217;s easy to see that the Opposition&#8217;s environmental credentials are a joke.  On economic matters (traditionally the Coalition strongpoint) they haven&#8217;t exactly covered themselves in glory either.  They would have delayed the stimulus packages (if they had bothered to stay awake to vote for them&#8230;I&#8217;m looking at you TA), leading us to a worse situation than we currently have.  And despite economic gurus the world over lauding us for the state of our economy, the Opposition and their media enablers (or is it the media and their political puppets) persist in telling us that the sky is falling in and we&#8217;ve never had it so bad.  No wonder the rest of the world looks at us and shakes their heads in disbelief.  And finally let&#8217;s look at technology.  Not content with slagging off the NBN as a white elephant and stating that &#8220;no-one needs to download movies that quick&#8221; and &#8220;I&#8217;m happy with my current speed&#8221;, these Luddites try to insist that fibre to the node couple with wireless is a better solution.  Well despite the fact that wireless will never be better than fibre IN THIS PHYSICAL UNIVERSE, this is the epitome of short-sightedness and shows their complete disinterest in nation building.</p>
<p>In short, this Opposition has &#8220;apparently&#8221; thrived on mindless negativity, fear-mongering, empty slogans and poisonous rhetoric and in conjunction with a fawning media pack have convinced the public that the Government are useless.</p>
<p>But when you strip away all the spin and emotive language and focus on the facts, what have they actually achieved?  No Government ministers have been stood down, no politicians have been sacked, no legislation has been amended in their favour, no legislation has been blocked and most importantly no early election has been called.  For all Abbott&#8217;s bluster and vitriol he has yet to do anything at all in this Parliament.</p>
<p>What he has done is show how completely unsuited the Opposition would be to being in charge.  They have no credible policies of any note&#8230;anything they do have is simply recycled Howard era policies or total bullshit.  Abbott will promise the world to get into power but cannot afford to fund all of his policy brain farts, hence the $70 billion funding shortfall.  He has a front bench completely devoid of any talent at all&#8230;can you imagine Julie Bishop giving a speech at the UN, or Joe Hockey at the G20&#8230;my eyes bleed just thinking about it.</p>
<p>And now finally the Government has employed some political judo and turned Abbott&#8217;s propensity to say No to everything against him in a spectacular manner.  By dropping the Migration Act amendment legislation they have in one swoop legitimised onshore processing and given themselves a handy stick to beat Abbott around the head with i.e. &#8220;he wouldn&#8217;t agree to the legislation so that&#8217;s why all the boats are coming&#8221;.</p>
<p>Personally I think it&#8217;s disgusting that asylum seeker&#8217;s lives can be used as a political football and that they should embrace onshore processing wholeheartedly, but can understand why they&#8217;ve gone this route.  The hate media and Coalition racists like the despicable Morrison have whipped up the inherent racism and xenophobia of the public to such a degree that it would be suicide to go that route.  Instead this way they get to blame Tony for all the new boat arrivals to appease the rednecks, but at the same time get to backdoor in onshore processing to appease the compassionate&#8230;they could pick up the votes from both sides.</p>
<p>Of course, this is all dependant on the facts being aired and going by the current state of what is laughingly called journalism in this country, it&#8217;s a big ask.  After all, what was the front page lead the day after the momentous passing of the carbon tax?  The Gillard -Rudd congratulatory peck and even more speculation about leadership changes.  Even after a journalist has admitted there is no actual indication that this is a potential, they still keep peddling it out.  Their desire to inject controversy and drama into even the most mundane of things to try to generate hits/sales/ratings does the public a massive disservice.</p>
<p>I believe the best thing to be done is to sack every Canberra press gallery journalist (particularly those so-called doyens of the press) and get a bunch of journalism graduates on the job.  You know they&#8217;ll be hungry and out to prove themselves so who best to try to get some decent information instead of rampant speculation.  As long as you give them a thorough warning about not writing crap it could be a winner&#8230;after all it can&#8217;t be any worse than the shit we currently get.</p>
<p>So in summary, channeling the Comic Book Guy, the Coalition are the WORST. OPPOSITION. EVER&#8230;and hopefully doomed to stay there for a long, long time.  After all, they do need the practice.</p>
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<p>UPDATE:  <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/opinion/politics/economics-by-book-not-for-abbott-20111013-1ln1b.html" target="_blank">Excellent summary of Abbott&#8217;s &#8220;abilities&#8221; by Jessica Irvine</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 02:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been a bit erratic with blog posts recently, mainly due to my reaction to the current state of Australian politics and media. I&#8217;ve actually become a bit depressed that it&#8217;s all very much same-old, same-old day in day out.  Government does stuff, Abbott pulls a stunt, Hockey makes a goose of himself,  Morrison acts [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=384&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been a bit erratic with blog posts recently, mainly due to my reaction to the current state of Australian politics and media.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve actually become a bit depressed that it&#8217;s all very much same-old, same-old day in day out.  Government does stuff, Abbott pulls a stunt, Hockey makes a goose of himself,  Morrison acts like a racist prick, rest of opposition practices being invisible, media praises Opposition for being useless negative pricks, media slams Government for using word out of context&#8230;blah blah blah.</p>
<p>This got me thinking a bit meta and wondering, what sort of person takes something they have no control over or something that will affect them in a major way so seriously?</p>
<p>When I was growing up I was never seriously into politics&#8230;it was just some background noise on the periphery of my life.  My parents never really divulged their particular flavours, though after I turned 18 and was going to vote for the first time I&#8217;m pretty sure they pointed me towards Labor&#8230;so it could be like a genetic condition <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>It has only really been in the last few years that it has become of some interest to me, and I&#8217;m pretty sure that coincides with the media trying to treat it as some sort of daily contest or battle to the death.  Of course, when this first started they were reasonably even handed about it, but these days they&#8217;ve gone completely mental and are seriously pushing the regime change barrow&#8230;and not just the lackwits at Limited News.</p>
<p>Just prior to the last election I was having dinner with my folks and the conversation rolled around to the election and I was shocked to my core to find out that they had both become LNP supporters.  I tried to find out why they turned, but all they did was trot out the traditional LNP talking points about Labor being bad with the economy, recycled dribble from the Oz about Labor failures, and how the NBN wouldn&#8217;t help them at all.  The gist I got was that because the government wasn&#8217;t doing anything for them, they didn&#8217;t want to vote for it!</p>
<p>It came to me that this wasn&#8217;t such an isolated condition either.  My in-laws are rabidly LNP and routine parrot the crap they distill from the Curious Snail.  I occasionally had a discussion or two with the father-in-law about politics, but the wife hates it and voices get raised so that has been nipped in the bud, and once again the underlying theme has been that because the government is not giving them anything or is making them pay their way, they don&#8217;t want to vote for it.</p>
<p>Is this indicative of the conservative mindset?  Is it a case of &#8220;I want mine and if you&#8217;re not going to give it to me you can get stuffed&#8221;?  Are they really so unconcerned with the bigger picture?</p>
<p>I know a lot of the right-leaning people will say that they pay taxes so they should get something in return, or they&#8217;ve worked hard all their life and they deserve something, but are they really that blinkered that they don&#8217;t care what happens to our society as a whole?</p>
<p>Is it so hard for them to understand that if the public health system isn&#8217;t fixed, then later on in life when they are older and need treatment they may have to pay through the nose for it&#8230;not easy to do when you are retired.</p>
<p>Or that if the public school system doesn&#8217;t get adequate funding, then people are going to have to pay for private schools, putting an unwelcome financial drain on the family,which in turn drives the quality of the public school system down even further in a vicious circle?</p>
<p>Is there something wrong with me because I think that government should be trying to help everyone, not just the special interest groups?  Is it weird to think that the carbon tax is a great idea because it give the polluters incentive to lift their game while compensating those who are most likely to be affected by price rises?  I personally will be out of pocket, but to me that is an incentive to make my own house greener to curb costs.</p>
<p>Or on something like the pokies pre-commitment scheme.  I have a relative who has a gambling problem and yes, it is pokies that are the issue.  The problem I see with poker machines is not that they are gambling, but that they are designed to extract the maximum money in the shortest possible time while keeping you entranced and oblivious.  These things are cashing in on the video game age by displaying the flashy graphics and giving the illusion of interactivity and control, but in effect you may as well walk over to the cashier and just give her your money.  Although the proposed scheme won&#8217;t stop gamblers losing their money, it gives them the chance to slow it down, and hence think about it when they hit their limit.  As for those who say they&#8217;ll just move to the TAB, this is total shit.  The pokie player will have no patience for the TAB as there is no instant result for them, good or bad.  The pokies are all about the instant fix.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that my politics have tended to crystallise around the traditional Labor values&#8230;generally trying to achieve the greatest good for the greatest amount of people, coupled with steering the nation towards the future. Things like improving public health, better funding for public education, improving infrastructure&#8230;to me these are the things that a government should be doing, things that can&#8217;t be left to private enterprise as it won&#8217;t be done to suit the maximum number of people.  A perfect point in case is the NBN.  There is no way a private enterprise would consider doing this&#8230;they wouldn&#8217;t push it to the regional areas because it wouldn&#8217;t be cost effective, they would charge like wounded bulls to recoup costs ASAP, and they would try to get away with the minimum possible to achieve some sort of result.  Instead we have a future proof infrastructure being laid down to be complemented with wireless for the 7% of the population that won&#8217;t have access.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve digressed a bit, so to get back on track I&#8217;ve often wondered when reading articles/posts/comments from the conservative viewpoint why they can&#8217;t see what I see.  Do they really think that giving rich bastards more tax breaks will help the worse off in society?  All they need to do is look to the US to see how much the trickle-down theory sucks.  Do they really think that the NIMBY attitude is all life is about?  I know I shouldn&#8217;t think of them as evil, but you really have to wonder sometimes when you see conservative commentators twist and manipulate things to suit their own worldview.</p>
<p>So to sum up, <del>I am right and those who disagree with me are wrong</del> <del>conservatives are idiots</del> can you ever really understand the motivations of the other side, or is it like dealing with another species?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gina Rinehart and her lackeys have a lot to answer for.  With the &#8220;success&#8221; (i.e. the ALP pantswetters ditching Rudd) of the mining industry&#8217;s advertising campaign every industry group or association with an axe to grind about some facet of legislation is jumping on board and whingeing from the highest mountains to the lowest valleys. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=sprayoftheday.wordpress.com&amp;blog=13585722&amp;post=382&amp;subd=sprayoftheday&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gina Rinehart and her lackeys have a lot to answer for.  With the &#8220;success&#8221; (i.e. the ALP pantswetters ditching Rudd) of the mining industry&#8217;s advertising campaign every industry group or association with an axe to grind about some facet of legislation is jumping on board and whingeing from the highest mountains to the lowest valleys.</p>
<p>I know we&#8217;re increasingly going down the Americanisation of politics road, but now this is taking it just a step too far.  I used to think that Australians were far too switched on to fall for some of the inane bullshit that passes for political discourse in the US, but with the feral media we have at the moment there isn&#8217;t really much alternative is there?  Being the sort of industry that will do anything for money they are more than happy to publish/air total lies and bullshit as long as they get the advertising dollars.  Couple this with the prevalence of Murdoch media and the other outlets willing and eager to follow them into the gutter of lowest common denominator and we can&#8217;t really expect to get a unbiased picture anywhere.</p>
<p>And then you have the feral Opposition.  they are so completely devoid of ideas that they are importing Republican from the US wholesale.  They ascribe to the notion of &#8220;tell a lie big enough and often enough people will believe it&#8221; directly from the Bush/Rove/Cheney handbook.  Every utterance they make in public is purely to denigrate the government&#8230;they are in no way advancing their own alternatives.  They are even attempting their own Tea Party movement started by that winner Cory Bernardi&#8230;they certainly have the moronic figurehead part in place, he&#8217;s just sadly lacking in charisma.</p>
<p>And now the final straw&#8230;the recent spate of &#8220;It&#8217;s UnAustralian&#8221; ads by Clubs Australia against the pokie pre-committment legislation.  Not only are they not content with running blatantly misleading ads, they are now &#8220;convincing&#8221; sporting identities to spruik against this DURING THE SPORTING TELECAST.  I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears when I heard Phil Gould and Ray Warren gobbing off during the rugby league match on Friday night&#8230;though I nearly bust a gut laughing when Gould said he knew the technology was not going to work.  You know when I have a question about computers and technology I ALWAYS go to a rugby league commentator to find out what&#8217;s what.</p>
<p>The worst aspect of this&#8230;there has been no outcry about politics intruding into the game, both NRL and AFL.  Despite the fact that they are misleading the public by lying or not stating the full picture, why has no-one arced up about them obviously toeing the Clubs Australia line?</p>
<p>The sad thing is that I think it&#8217;s because we are becoming used to it&#8230;and the intrusion into the game itself is just the next stage of evolution for this revolting method of backdooring politics.</p>
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